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	<title>Comments on: DRBD 8.0.6 brings full live migration for Xen on DRBD</title>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Florian,
I discovered drbd only a couple of months ago and I&#039;m doing my tests on citrix xenserver free.

Why don&#039;t you update o renew this blog post at nowadays maybe giving it this title

&quot;DRBD 8.3.8.1 brings full live migration for XenServer 5.6 on DRBD&quot;

I also noticed that XenMotion is available on XenServer free edition (and I&#039;ll do my testings, at least, as soon I well understand how to export and import VMs&#039;s metadata the correct way).

Thank you

R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Florian,<br />
I discovered drbd only a couple of months ago and I&#8217;m doing my tests on citrix xenserver free.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you update o renew this blog post at nowadays maybe giving it this title</p>
<p>&#8220;DRBD 8.3.8.1 brings full live migration for XenServer 5.6 on DRBD&#8221;</p>
<p>I also noticed that XenMotion is available on XenServer free edition (and I&#8217;ll do my testings, at least, as soon I well understand how to export and import VMs&#8217;s metadata the correct way).</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
<p>R.</p>
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		<title>By: Florian Haas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florian Haas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 08:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrea,

yes of course you can utilize load balancing/load sharing in this configuration mode. Please drop us an email at &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:sales@linbit.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;code&gt;sales@linbit.com&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt; if interested in obtaining details on how to set this up. 
The same goes for backup; there are several options. LVM snapshots being one of them, obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrea,</p>
<p>yes of course you can utilize load balancing/load sharing in this configuration mode. Please drop us an email at <a href="mailto:sales@linbit.com" rel="nofollow"><code><a href="mailto:sales@linbit.com">sales@linbit.com</a></code></a> if interested in obtaining details on how to set this up.<br />
The same goes for backup; there are several options. LVM snapshots being one of them, obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: andrea ferraris</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrea ferraris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 07:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some questions.

In drbd active/active mode configuration, is it possible to use drbd to grant either HA either manual load balancing and computing load sharing assigning different active VMs to different physical hosts in the cluster?

What could be a good solution for backup? It is, I was thinking to lvm over drbd snapshotting, but you stated that for this to work is needed that the overlying file system is freezed and that such condition is hard to reach. But is it a filesystem needed? It is not possible to use logical volumes only containing VM images? And if it is possible, are there yet problem in lvm snapshot backups?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some questions.</p>
<p>In drbd active/active mode configuration, is it possible to use drbd to grant either HA either manual load balancing and computing load sharing assigning different active VMs to different physical hosts in the cluster?</p>
<p>What could be a good solution for backup? It is, I was thinking to lvm over drbd snapshotting, but you stated that for this to work is needed that the overlying file system is freezed and that such condition is hard to reach. But is it a filesystem needed? It is not possible to use logical volumes only containing VM images? And if it is possible, are there yet problem in lvm snapshot backups?</p>
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		<title>By: Maxim Doucet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maxim Doucet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Florian,
I was wondering if there&#039;s this kind of facilities for KVM ?
I stumbled upon http://www.mail-archive.com/kvm@vger.kernel.org/msg02105.html that&#039;s why I&#039;m asking.
At least KVM live migration works on DRBD according to http://www.mail-archive.com/kvm@vger.kernel.org/msg02112.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Florian,<br />
I was wondering if there&#8217;s this kind of facilities for KVM ?<br />
I stumbled upon <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/kvm@vger.kernel.org/msg02105.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mail-archive.com/kvm@vger.kernel.org/msg02105.html</a> that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m asking.<br />
At least KVM live migration works on DRBD according to <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/kvm@vger.kernel.org/msg02112.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mail-archive.com/kvm@vger.kernel.org/msg02112.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: dynaperl&#187; Blogarchiv &#187; Xen Live Migration mit DRBD 8</title>
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		<dc:creator>dynaperl&#187; Blogarchiv &#187; Xen Live Migration mit DRBD 8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DRBD 8.0.6 ist es möglich auf einer DRBD Ressource das Live Migration Feature von Xen zu verwenden. Dazu [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] DRBD 8.0.6 ist es möglich auf einer DRBD Ressource das Live Migration Feature von Xen zu verwenden. Dazu [...]</p>
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		<title>By: blog.bitingbytes.de &#187; Xen Live Migration ohne Cluster-Filesystem oder NFS</title>
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		<dc:creator>blog.bitingbytes.de &#187; Xen Live Migration ohne Cluster-Filesystem oder NFS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DRBD 8.0.6 brings full live migration for Xen on DRBD http://fghaas.wordpress.com/2007/09/03/drbd-806-brings-full-live-migration-for-xen-on-drbd/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] DRBD 8.0.6 brings full live migration for Xen on DRBD <a href="http://fghaas.wordpress.com/2007/09/03/drbd-806-brings-full-live-migration-for-xen-on-drbd/" rel="nofollow">http://fghaas.wordpress.com/2007/09/03/drbd-806-brings-full-live-migration-for-xen-on-drbd/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Florian Haas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florian Haas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marco,

yes you can use LVM snapshots with DRBD, however it&#039;s advisable to make sure that the file system is &quot;frozen&quot; at the time the snapshot is created. That&#039;s not too easily feasible when using DRBD as Xen VBDs. YMMV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marco,</p>
<p>yes you can use LVM snapshots with DRBD, however it&#8217;s advisable to make sure that the file system is &#8220;frozen&#8221; at the time the snapshot is created. That&#8217;s not too easily feasible when using DRBD as Xen VBDs. YMMV.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Barbero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco Barbero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 01:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I use DRBD 8 on top of LVM, so that I can take advantage of LVM snapshot for backup purpose? Or is there an alternative way to accomplish this?
Thanks in advance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I use DRBD 8 on top of LVM, so that I can take advantage of LVM snapshot for backup purpose? Or is there an alternative way to accomplish this?<br />
Thanks in advance</p>
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		<title>By: Florian Haas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florian Haas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Q&quot;,

this does not require GFS. Nor OCFS2. Indeed, the point is to avoid the need for a clustering file system. 

The helper script makes your VBDs Primary on domU creation, and Secondary on domU destruction. The allow-to-primaries option is there to allow live migration, since Xen assumes to have write access to the backing both the source and the destination host at the time of migration. If you&#039;re not using live migration, you can do fine without allow-two-primaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Q&#8221;,</p>
<p>this does not require GFS. Nor OCFS2. Indeed, the point is to avoid the need for a clustering file system. </p>
<p>The helper script makes your VBDs Primary on domU creation, and Secondary on domU destruction. The allow-to-primaries option is there to allow live migration, since Xen assumes to have write access to the backing both the source and the destination host at the time of migration. If you&#8217;re not using live migration, you can do fine without allow-two-primaries.</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this setup require GFS or other clustering filesystem and all the fencing stuff for live migration? or does it somehow handle it so that the source vm blocks writes/goes secondary when the destination vm becomes primary? at least allow-two-primaries is enabled so i guess gfs is needed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this setup require GFS or other clustering filesystem and all the fencing stuff for live migration? or does it somehow handle it so that the source vm blocks writes/goes secondary when the destination vm becomes primary? at least allow-two-primaries is enabled so i guess gfs is needed?</p>
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